Posts by The Rebel

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

My name is the rebel, I harbor no illusions of being a poster of more than average intelligence and intellect. I would therefore appreciate constructive replys to these thoughts my mind has raised having read the thread, which are:-

A) Am I correct in thinking science at present can understand very little about consciousness? If so does that have any effect on how science views "The Origin of life?"

B) Am I correct in thinking the " origin of life" can still only be theorized and observed but when it comes to complete understanding even scientists are still only small children?

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It would be remiss of me not to reply Viviane and her earlier question? "what good points do I feel Slim has made?" Well the only answer I can give, is that in the search for answers we need the questions. And Slims questions are always new to me.

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Cofty I think I will hush :-) Besides I am going to the flicks tonight, which I am sure is less entertaining than this thread, and being accompanied with a family who also require popcorn and coke rather expensive:-(

Hope the thread comes to a positive conclusion!

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Viviane " No thanks ....I don't need to deal with anymore childish drama"

The Rebel:- Oh the irony. Viv please examine your post history, each thread you attach yourself to becomes "childish drama"

Further irony, many posts ago Cofty said he would not respond to anymore of Slims comments. Well then my suggestion Cofty, is that you start a new thread with the same interesting "O.P" but follow your convictions ,and don't comment on Slims posts.

It's possible ex-witnesses are further forward than awake magazine science, and can be trusted to compare and contrast your O.Ps and alternative viewpoints without the need of ugly confrontations.

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Viviane " wait you think that being called out for not being able to come up with a single good point SBF AFTER....... ...."

The Rebel, Viviane, I know you miss me, so please understand there is not a 10 minute rule to reply to your posts. My opinion and answers will be more valued by "YOU" if you give me time, not only to come up with answers, but time to think how you will take those words, and misconstrue them to your advantage.

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Nicolaou:-

Nicolaou, : The fact that you were unable to come up with a single point SBF has made is rather telling. Don't you think?

The Rebel:- Nicolaou, then please come up with a single point that Cofy and Vivianne have made that fits the same criteria. Rather telling. Don't you think?

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Vivianne, I think as a regular contributor to the board Slim has made many great points. But if you are referring to this thread, and want one " specifically good point"Slim has made I would answer the best "point" slim has made, is that by posting on this thread, he has shown he is alive, alive in thought and with emotional intensity to think and respond to your opposing viewpoints.

Now Viv we may end up putting our boxing gloves on:-And I think I may be knocked out. But you asked the good points slim has made by posting and I gave my answer.

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Cofty, sorry to interrupt your O.P becoming an " ON YOUR" terms " ON TOPIC" O.P.

Any interesting O.Ps will have a language barrier. And that is not addressed by saying Slim simply " Wants attention" In my opinion Slim has raised some great points on this thread. So please respect the " Terms and conditions of posting guidelines," which are respecting opposing viewpoints. And remember if you think, the cold north wind of opposing views to cold for you, then ask yourself why is Slim a poster of plus 9000 posts still allowed to post here?

Maybe opposing viewpoints are of interest and valued?

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

I have to say "tornapart " I agree with you, this thread has also been way over my head. But some great points have been made by Cofty, and then Slim replys with his investigating work and we have another epic thread.

90 % of the time I learn so much from a Cofty thread, he prepares the O.P so well. I do appreciate that, but having started a great O.P, the responsibility is to assure the O.P stays calm. Slim seems brilliant at taking those threads and creating fireworks. The questios are why is Slim a inconvenience to a Cofty O.P? Should Cofty respond differently to Slims comments?

In my opinion Slim does on occasion come up with some good results, and therefore raises some intersting thoughts which I appreciate. Therefore in my opinion it's a shame when Slim puts his needle into a Cofty O.P because the communication always becomes a lethal injection to a great O.P

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

nicolaou: -.Noted

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Origin of Life

by cofty in

in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

The Rebel

Cofty, my aim is simply gain this indication:-

if those reading the thread feel Slim has made reasonable and balanced arguments .I therefore equate convincing evidence and not popularity as the deciding factor to a like. That is the objective. And I hope that post establishes that objective not his popularity. And in so doing it will give an interesting indication on how those following the debate are thinking.